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title: Automations Discussion — 2026-02-24
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created: '2026-02-24'
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- aviary
- hubspot
- abm
- automation
- crm
- orbit
- bant
- sales-pipeline
- linkedin
- data-cleanup
- meeting
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client_source: AviaryAI
industry_context: saas
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# Automations Discussion — 2026-02-24

Working session with Aaron Grossman reviewing the ABM campaign launch results and refining HubSpot pipeline structure, BANT qualification fields, engagement automations, and database cleanup strategy.

**Attendees:** Aaron Grossman (Aviary) · Mark Hope (Asymmetric)

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## Overview

The call had two main threads: (1) reviewing the freshly-launched Orbit ABM campaign for Tier 1 accounts, and (2) working through the HubSpot deal pipeline structure, BANT fields, and automation triggers Aaron had drafted. The session was hands-on — Mark shared his screen and made several HubSpot changes live.

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## ABM Campaign Status (Orbit)

The 6-email, 30-day sequence launched the day before this call for **104 Tier 1 accounts**. Each account has a personalized research report, strategy report, and individual email sequence loaded in [[tools/orbit|Orbit]].

**Email cadence:** Days 0 · 4 · 9 · 15 · 21 · 30
> Rationale: persistent without being aggressive for a cold audience. The team discussed potentially extending beyond 6 emails depending on results.

**Email 1 results:**

| Metric | Result |
|---|---|
| Open rate | 13% |
| Click rate | 11% |
| Bounce rate | 2% |
| Unsubscribe rate | 2% |

The 2% unsubscribe on a first cold email was flagged as a strong signal. The bounce rate was frustrating given pre-send hygiene was run immediately beforehand.

Aaron will receive an Orbit login to view open/click data and export lists directly. Mark is also building a HubSpot dashboard so Aaron can monitor campaign performance without needing to log into Orbit separately.

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## Key Decisions

### HubSpot Deal Pipeline Simplified

The existing pipeline stages were replaced with a cleaner structure. The `Pre-Qualified` stage was removed — the act of creating a deal already implies pre-qualification.

**New deal stages:**
1. `Qualified`
2. `Proposal`
3. `Contract Negotiation`
4. `Closed Won`
5. `Closed Lost`

The standard HubSpot lifecycle stages (`Lead → MQL → SQL`) are retained for tracking contacts from non-ABM sources (website forms, conferences, webinars) before they become active deals.

### BANT Fields Added to Deals

Custom properties for Budget, Authority, Need, and Timeline will be added to deal records. These can be checkboxes with accompanying detail fields. A potential automation: auto-promote a contact to `Sales Qualified` once all four BANT criteria are confirmed.

### Engagement Trigger Automation

Rather than automating deal stage movement (which Aaron noted is easy to do manually), the priority automation is a **warm lead flag**:

- **Trigger:** A prospect clicks on 2 or more emails in the Orbit sequence
- **Action:** Create a HubSpot task for Aaron to initiate direct follow-up

### LinkedIn Outreach — Manual Only

Mark enriched ~50% of Tier 1 contacts with LinkedIn profile URLs via Hunter. Aaron will use these for manual connection requests. LinkedIn automation was explicitly ruled out — their API is restrictive and platforms like Apollo that attempt it get flagged.

### Database Cleanup Approach

The HubSpot company database has 10,000+ records (a mix of Aaron's Apollo imports and data from a prior consultant). Strategy to make it workable:

1. Create filtered views (e.g., FI Type = Credit Union AND Employees > 100)
2. Use bulk-select to assign owners and update properties across the filtered set
3. Rename the `FI Type` field to `Type` and expand values to include target customers, partners, technology partners, etc.

> ⚠️ **Warning noted:** Bulk edits in HubSpot are difficult to reverse. Aaron committed to proceeding carefully.

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## Action Items

### Mark
- [x] Create Orbit login for Aaron
- [ ] Build HubSpot dashboard for Orbit/ABM campaign tracking
- [ ] Update HubSpot deal stages (remove Pre-Qualified; add Qualified, Proposal, Contract Negotiation, Closed Won, Closed Lost)
- [ ] Add BANT custom properties to deal records
- [ ] Build engagement trigger automation (2+ email clicks → create follow-up task for Aaron)

### Aaron
- [ ] Clean HubSpot company database using filtered views and bulk edits
- [ ] Rename `FI Type` field to `Type`; add expanded type values; reclassify companies
- [ ] Experiment with AI agent for automated task creation from notes; share results

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## Discussion Notes

### On Task Automation

Aaron asked whether HubSpot could auto-create tasks from unstructured notes (e.g., typing "follow up in two weeks" in an activity note). It cannot natively. Mark described a potential agent-based workaround: an AI agent that scans yesterday's activity for a consistent keyword (e.g., "create follow-up") and generates tasks via the HubSpot API. Aaron planned to experiment with this before the next call.

> Mark noted he manages the Aviary HubSpot instance entirely through the API via Claude — he doesn't use the HubSpot UI directly.

### On Pipeline Automation vs. Manual Movement

Aaron confirmed that manually dragging deals between pipeline stages in HubSpot is not a burden — he was primarily interested in automations that surface warm leads and reduce the chance of missing engaged prospects, not in automating the pipeline progression itself.

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## Related

- [[clients/current/aviary/_index|Aviary Client Overview]]
- [[tools/orbit|Orbit ABM Platform]]
- [[knowledge/hubspot-pipeline-design|HubSpot Pipeline Design Patterns]]
- [[knowledge/bant-qualification|BANT Qualification in HubSpot]]